Comments on: Sourdough Starter https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/ Creative, flavour-packed vegan recipes to satisfy comfort food cravings & warm your soul! Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:38:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.3 By: Melanie McDonald https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-113635 Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:38:41 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-113635 In reply to Kumar.

As it's being kept so warm, and because you aren't using rye flour, you will probably find that this recipe doesn't work well for you. For it to work well, rye flour is required as per the recipe. Wholewheat flour doesn't contain as many nutrients for the bacteria to eat (and sifted wholewheat even less) so they will be hungry more quickly which is why it doesn't tend to work as well. That coupled with the very warm temps your starter is kept, isn't a good combination because the temperature will speed everything up and they will run out of food even more quickly. If you can switch to rye flour you will have a much better chance of it being successful. If you can't, you would probably be better off using a more traditional starter recipe which involves discard. If you have to feed it more than once a day a no discard method won't work for you because you'll end up with an unmanageable amount of starter without discarding. I hope that helps!

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By: Kumar https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-113614 Tue, 11 Jan 2022 01:17:00 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-113614 Hey Mel,

A pleasure to visit your blog pages. I love Sourdough and I love wholemeal. I was using yeast to ferment my sourdough bread and now I prefer using natural wild yeast.

Here is what I did:
Day 1: 15 grams of wholemeal (sifted) flour + 15 grams of water
Day 2: While adding mater I accidentally added 33 grams so I add 33 grams of the same flour and mixed it. I live in Auckland, New Zealand and despite being summer and hot the temperature is not consistent day in day out. Instead, I leave it in the oven with the light on and it is constant 28.5C/83F and then I turn off the light in the night and it drops back to about 24.5c/76F. I mixed this at 8 AM and put it in the oven and the size quadrupled by 1 PM.

Would you add more flour and water to it since it is quadrupled or will you leave it for today and continue the process on Day 3?

Kumar

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By: Melanie McDonald https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-113465 Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:18:00 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-113465 In reply to Humi.

It sounds very much like it could be kahm yeast which is harmless and your starter should be fine to continue. It's pretty common on starters and when making kombucha. I found a picture on the internet for you to check: https://images.app.goo.gl/BXafHzWq97qzkb5S7
If you see that layer again just scrape it off. If however you notice a revolting, cheesy smell ( you honestly can't miss it!), see anything furry, pink, blue or green you will need to discard the starter and start again. Hope that helps!

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By: Humi https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-113457 Tue, 04 Jan 2022 11:58:15 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-113457 Hi Mel. I followed your recipe and on day 5 I developed a layer on my starter, almost like a dry layer but it has white filaments (spidery lines) on this layer. Despite this my starter rose and fell. I mixed it in and fed it for Day 6 and it rose double. Is it still safe to use?

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By: Rosalind https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-109378 Sun, 14 Nov 2021 23:13:51 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-109378 In reply to Rosalind.

Per your advice and instructions, I have since scooped a large tablespoon each into 2 clean mason jars and fed 25gm room temp water 25 gm rye flour covered loosely. Jars now on kitchen countertop .Shall be watching it and will give you a report in 7? days. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you for your help.

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By: Melanie McDonald https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-108456 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 04:23:33 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-108456 In reply to Rosalind.

There are many different methods for making a starter and they will all work given time and the right conditions, but it's really important to choose one method and stick to it rather than chop and change. Starters need routine and switching up what you're doing will just confuse your bacteria and you won't get consistent results. If you want to make a waste-free no discard starter then follow my method and if you don't mind discarding, find a more traditional discard method that you like. Just be consistent.

With regards the crust, have you got a loosely fitted lid on it as per my instructions? If it doesn't a crust will develop. Keep a lid on and it should stay moist and crust-free.
Also my recipe states to use 25 grams of flour and 25 grams of water, not 15. The volume using 25 grams of each is already very small. If you're using half that, that could be another reason it's drying out and getting a crust.

If you're in BC, it's not really very cold even in winter, and at the moment it's still pretty mild. Your starter doesn't need to be on the fire place. It will be fine on the kitchen counter. If you are putting your fire on (even if you've only had it on once) I can pretty much guarantee your starter is getting too hot above it. Heat rises. When the bacteria get too hot they die. Just keep it in the kitchen. Mine lives there all year here in Victoria and does just fine.

You should not be stirring it twice a day. My instructions don't say to do that. You just stir it when you add the flour and water. If you're stirring it at any other time you will be disrupting it and breaking up any forming bubbles. Breaking the bubbles releases Co2 into the bacteria's environment, poisoning them and hindering their growth. Just mix the flour and water in and leave it for 24 hours.

I also don't say to use warm water. It should be room temperature.

My biggest tip is not to overthink it. Feed it water and good quality rye flour once a day at roughly the same time as per my instructions and forget about it the rest of the time. If you miss a day don't worry and just feed it when you remember or the next day.

I hope that helps!

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By: Rosalind https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-108433 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 00:42:27 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-108433 I have been struggling to get my sour dough starter going now for for more than 2 months

I started with 15 grams of Rye flour and 15 grams of lukewarm water. Feeding everyday with the same ratio.

Placed both bottles on top of my fire place which is warm (BTW I am in BC Canada).

Only a teeny weeny bubbles so far. After reading some blogs I followed the advice to activate it adding

warm apple juice and same ratio of water rye flour for 2 days. It flourished and rose twice the volume. It was active and fluffy.I was happy thinking it is going to happen after all.

I reverted to warm water and rye flour routine and it fell back to as sluggish as before. Since it has continued for weeks without results I started discarding the top layer everyday .

I feed it same ratio, stir at least twice a day to aerate it. Each morning there is a crust on top of somewhat

thick and gummy dough with tiny speck of small bubbles.

What am I doing wrong?

I keep reading that Patience is Key but I cannot figure why my starter is going nowhere. I would appreciate very much

you guidance and help.

Thank you
Rosalind.

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By: Melanie McDonald https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-108394 Sun, 07 Nov 2021 20:14:25 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-108394 In reply to Jackie.

I'm so pleased you found it. Discarding is so wasteful. I hope your new starter makes you great bread!

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By: Jackie https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-108231 Sat, 06 Nov 2021 17:13:27 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-108231 5 stars
I have started a rye starter with another recipe and suggestions, directions. And I too wondered, why am I throwing all this out. When shall I get enough to make a loaf of bread? After searching for other recipes , I found this recipe! And I am most excited! I did not want to throw this out as the other recipe required. I am happy to say at day 4 my starter looks as it should on my counter. I shall continue as your recipe requires for day 5 etc and hopefully I will be able to make bread this week. Thanks for your work!

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By: Mei https://avirtualvegan.com/sourdough-starter/comment-page-5/#comment-105216 Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:07:34 +0000 https://avirtualvegan.com/?p=26942#comment-105216 5 stars
Thanks for the detailed recipe Melanie! By far the easiest to follow and the least wastage.
My starter was ready on Day 11. I have since baked a few loaves successfully!. Am so thrilled and can't wait to try more recipes

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